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		<title>Drorbn at 16:03, 1 June 2011</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;A Leibniz algbera is a Lie algebra minus the anti-symmetry of the bracket; I have previously erroneously asserted that here {\mathcal A}(K) is Lie; however,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Jim,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ooops, you are probably right and I should retract my claim and revert to the&lt;br /&gt;
older version, which just said that gr is a Leibniz algebra. Do you allow me to&lt;br /&gt;
post this conversation as is (minus your email address) as a reference? Where&lt;br /&gt;
did you find the Lie claim? I just made it now at Swiss Knots 2011, but I have&lt;br /&gt;
the feeling I made it elsewhere too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Best,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dror.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, James Conant wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Hi Dror,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I know you must be busy, but I have a quick question about a claim on one of&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; your slides that the quadratic approximation to the associated graded object&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; for a quandle (with unit) is a (graded) Lie algebra. This caught my eye since&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I am on the look-out for interesting constructions of Lie algebras associated&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; to knots and links. In any event, I haven&amp;#039;t been able to prove antisymmetry.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; It&amp;#039;s pretty obvious that on the basis {(v-1)} for the augmentation ideal that&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; (v-1)^(v-1)=0. If we also knew that x^x=0 for arbitrary linear combinations&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; of these basic v-1s, we&amp;#039;d be done, but I don&amp;#039;t see how to show that. Perhaps&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;m missing something obvious.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; -Jim&lt;br /&gt;
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