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		<title>Iva at 14:05, 8 September 2011</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 10:05, 8 September 2011&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Def&lt;/del&gt;: A knot diagram is &#039;&#039;&#039;descending&#039;&#039;&#039; if there exists a point on the diagram &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;s.t.&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;if we draw the knot&lt;/del&gt; starting &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;at&lt;/del&gt; that point&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;,&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;whenever&lt;/del&gt; the knot &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;has&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/del&gt; crossing&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;,&lt;/del&gt; the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;new&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;segment&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;goes&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;under&lt;/del&gt; the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;existing&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;segment&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;Definition&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;: A knot diagram is &#039;&#039;&#039;descending&#039;&#039;&#039; if there exists a point on the diagram &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;such&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;that,&lt;/ins&gt; starting &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;from&lt;/ins&gt; that point &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and going along&lt;/ins&gt; the knot&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;,&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;each&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;time we reach any&lt;/ins&gt; crossing&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; for&lt;/ins&gt; the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;first&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;time&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;we&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;do so along&lt;/ins&gt; the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;upper&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;strand of the crossing&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;By flipping crossings one can make any knot descending and any descending &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;knots&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;are&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;unknots&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Deduce&lt;/del&gt; that the Jones skein relation and value of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; for union of &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;circles&lt;/del&gt; give &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; explicitly for any &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;knots&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;By flipping crossings one can make any knot descending and any descending &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;knot&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the unknot&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;From this we can deduce&lt;/ins&gt; that the Jones skein relation and&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; the&lt;/ins&gt; value of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; for&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; the&lt;/ins&gt; union of &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;any number unknots&lt;/ins&gt; give &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; explicitly for any &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;knot&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Iva</name></author>
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		<title>Conan777 at 06:16, 19 September 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-09-19T06:16:47Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 02:16, 19 September 2009&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Def: A knot diagram is &#039;&#039;&#039;descending&#039;&#039;&#039; if there exists a point on the diagram s.t. if we draw the knot starting at that point, whenever the knot has a crossing, the new segment goes under the existing segment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;By flipping crossings one can make any knot descending and any descending knots are unknots. Deduce that the Jones skein relation and value of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; for union of circles give &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; explicitly for any knots.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>Conan777 at 06:12, 19 September 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-09-19T06:12:29Z</updated>

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Def: A knot diagram is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;descending&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; if there exists a point on the diagram s.t. if we draw the knot starting at that point, whenever the knot has a crossing, the new segment goes under the existing segment.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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